Sounds like an injury waiting to happen. If someone submits its for a reason typically not because they want you to continue to keep them in that situation to satisfy your fetish for inflicting pain. If anyone would ever hold me in a move past my submission that would be our last match ever...
yes people we are talking about guys with common sense and agreed before the match takes place. It works out great and pushes you past that point. Now of course its before your injured.
What do you guys think of an agreed match where the submissions are held for an extra amount of time after the tap to grind the opponent down? No rest between subs. Winner is first to grind the loser to verbal quit.
There are positions and holds which aren't actual submissions to which guys will sometimes tap: hundred kilos, for example (if you don't know what is, Google it). Theoretically, it is "safe" to ignore the submission for a few moments at least because your opponent can physically tolerate the situation (just not mentally).
Chokes, also, if you're correctly applying them, would be theoretically "safe" to ignore a submission on and put them out (as long as you can tell when they're out and immediately release them).
Most submissions are some form of joint lock, and these are absolutely not even theoretically safe to ignore because they don't work as submissions until they're on or across the threshold of doing physical damage.
There are some guys out there whom I know are competent, trained, and experienced and I'd trust them in a match enough that I wouldn't tap to a choke; I'd keep fighting and either escape or let myself go out.
But, yeah; this idea generally sounds like a recipe for injury, especially between untrained grapplers.
A hot idea in fantasy and looks hot when seen in pro. However, for those of us who do like sub or promission, a tap almost always means that the person on the receiving end has reached or surpassed their limit in that hold. The risk of injury in this type of scenario is a real concern.
Dangerous even if agreed upon; as it could spread to taps being ignored at other times. Taps are used not only as "I give up," but also as an instinctive sign of actual pain, injury, or other distress, which on rare occasion might render the tapper unable to yell out. It should be absolute as a stop sign or a red light. Ignoring a second attempt to tap out could end up with a hard fist as the third tapping..
SuperBadSabs (1)
22.2.2016 18:44Sounds like an injury waiting to happen. If someone submits its for a reason typically not because they want you to continue to keep them in that situation to satisfy your fetish for inflicting pain. If anyone would ever hold me in a move past my submission that would be our last match ever...
Spruceman (55 )
22.2.2016 19:02(In antwoord hierop)
Some might say it could be the person doing the continuing's last match ever as well.
WiganWrestler89 (0)
15.2.2016 9:06Common sense obviously applies!
dantheman777 (3)
23.2.2016 2:29(In antwoord hierop)
yes people we are talking about guys with common sense and agreed before the match takes place. It works out great and pushes you past that point. Now of course its before your injured.
GI WARRIOR (0)
24.2.2016 3:27(In antwoord hierop)
Yes common sense applies to everything
GI WARRIOR (0)
21.2.2016 4:50(In antwoord hierop)
Yes it does. Bring it on cuz
WiganWrestler89 (0)
15.2.2016 2:04What do you guys think of an agreed match where the submissions are held for an extra amount of time after the tap to grind the opponent down? No rest between subs. Winner is first to grind the loser to verbal quit.
IndyWarrior (39)
05.12.2016 14:06(In antwoord hierop)
There are positions and holds which aren't actual submissions to which guys will sometimes tap: hundred kilos, for example (if you don't know what is, Google it). Theoretically, it is "safe" to ignore the submission for a few moments at least because your opponent can physically tolerate the situation (just not mentally).
Chokes, also, if you're correctly applying them, would be theoretically "safe" to ignore a submission on and put them out (as long as you can tell when they're out and immediately release them).
Most submissions are some form of joint lock, and these are absolutely not even theoretically safe to ignore because they don't work as submissions until they're on or across the threshold of doing physical damage.
There are some guys out there whom I know are competent, trained, and experienced and I'd trust them in a match enough that I wouldn't tap to a choke; I'd keep fighting and either escape or let myself go out.
But, yeah; this idea generally sounds like a recipe for injury, especially between untrained grapplers.
GrappleBear (7 )
18.2.2016 5:52(In antwoord hierop)
sounds like an ideal matchup
GI WARRIOR (0)
20.2.2016 4:37(In antwoord hierop)
Let's you and me wrestle until someone submit
GI WARRIOR (0)
17.2.2016 22:51(In antwoord hierop)
Come on down and let's you and me wrestle here in Enterprise Alabama at the Econolodge Inn and Suites or Boll Weevil Inn
dantheman777 (3)
17.2.2016 17:40(In antwoord hierop)
I like that one min longer or as you the winner sees fit
rufffight1979 (2)
05.12.2016 11:32(In antwoord hierop)
I agree Dan.
GI WARRIOR (0)
17.2.2016 23:12(In antwoord hierop)
I'm ready to submit you
dantheman777 (3)
19.2.2016 21:06(In antwoord hierop)
you are so hot I would love to wrestle you with the finish of me being choked out and used
GI WARRIOR (0)
20.2.2016 4:36(In antwoord hierop)
Come on over and let's you and me wrestle dantheman777
Hardmatch (98)
17.2.2016 8:04(In antwoord hierop)
A hot idea in fantasy and looks hot when seen in pro. However, for those of us who do like sub or promission, a tap almost always means that the person on the receiving end has reached or surpassed their limit in that hold. The risk of injury in this type of scenario is a real concern.
GI WARRIOR (0)
17.2.2016 22:52(In antwoord hierop)
I'm ready to take you on in a one on one toe to toe shoulder to shoulder man to man wrestling action match
Hardmatch (98)
18.2.2016 6:12(In antwoord hierop)
I would gladly take you on.
GI WARRIOR (0)
20.2.2016 4:39(In antwoord hierop)
Come on down and let's you and me wrestle
greekwrestler (75)
17.2.2016 2:08(In antwoord hierop)
want to take u like that wigan. man enuf? I travel
GI WARRIOR (0)
21.2.2016 14:57(In antwoord hierop)
I want to wrestle you greekwrestler
greekwrestler (75)
17.2.2016 2:04(In antwoord hierop)
man I LOVE this
GI WARRIOR (0)
17.2.2016 2:14(In antwoord hierop)
I'm ready to take you on
GI WARRIOR (0)
15.2.2016 6:06(In antwoord hierop)
I'm ready submit you
GI WARRIOR (0)
15.2.2016 6:05(In antwoord hierop)
I'm ready submitted for
Spruceman (55 )
15.2.2016 5:34(In antwoord hierop)
Dangerous even if agreed upon; as it could spread to taps being ignored at other times. Taps are used not only as "I give up," but also as an instinctive sign of actual pain, injury, or other distress, which on rare occasion might render the tapper unable to yell out. It should be absolute as a stop sign or a red light. Ignoring a second attempt to tap out could end up with a hard fist as the third tapping..
Snake Hips (3)
15.2.2016 6:01(In antwoord hierop)
Spruceman, that was the best possible reply to what was quite a silly post. Well said!