masochistic wrestling

Pithy answer? Any hold I'm in that has me screaming in pain at the moment... but for me the most painful (and dangerous) are shoulder wrenches that lead to arm bars - the torquing on my elbows is deadly - and I have learned just to tap out as quickly as possible with that hold. Be warned - if you overdo this hold your tendons that attach to the elbow become stressed - its very hard to recover from!

That's a very valid point. I think we all have good pain thresholds here but I hope we're all smart enough to realize when certain holds could cause injury if resisted too long. Pain is one thing, injuries are another.

Totally agree. I certainly don’t want any injury or to cause any injury. Safe and sane is the way!

I am still very flexible but I know when to tap.

when the other guy has your babymakers in his hand its very painful, too

And another from ZSJ:

https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/878780544015888384/photo/1

Did the ref not seem him tapping out or is it just me. That had to hurt like hell.

I'm not sure whether GIF's work on here, but here is another nasty ZSJ moment.

EDIT - Looks like they don't.

would love to punish you jonny..

Oh what a shame - I am thinking of doing that new one to you Jonny!

And I think we have pretty much established that if you want to do something, it happens.

And I have certainly learnt that resisting just makes it worse.

Oh yes that is so true Jonny

Anyway back to the thread .... :-) anyone else have any painful holds to inspire us all with?

How about a tight short arm scissor?

Yikes and thanks for sharing. All of us jobbers should experience that at least once.

I think a Boston crab is the ultimate submission hold although that Hyper Normalization hold in Boston Kid’s link here might top it.

Also a fan of Zach Sabre's holds - this one for example:

https://imgur.com/r/squaredCircle/3jdhQK0

HyperNormalisation ... very impressive hold! Absolutely wonderful to see the final hand locking to complete the hold ... all we need now is to see that hold locked on in a private match on a stubborn jobber for a longer time!

Im gonna wrap up on jobber on wed in this.

Well he is one lucky jobber!

Wow, absolutely awesome hold ! Once he locks on the double arm bar it is really brutal !

That is a hot and painful looking hold.

Yeh Zach is a master of submission

and poor tyler bate. YUM!

Or for us jobbers, Damn Lucky Tyler Bate.

Yeah he certainly is the master of submission holds. And that looks like an extremely painful submission hold to be locked up in. I must try that on an opponent !

Damn, that is very hot!!!

Definitely the crab. Arm locks really hurt me :(

In my opinion:

The Full Boston Crab

But there are others that come close like:

Indian Death Lock
Chicken wing
Can opener ( a sort of Kimura with both arms locked)
Camel

I can vouch for the pain levels in Boston Kid's Boston Crab.

And Indian Death lLock.

I managed 8mins in his camel tho, so can't be that bad 😛

What do you guys consider to be the most painful hold in wrestling?

Wrestleme37 whatever you consider the most painful you can do to me. LOL.