All this political discussion. But what I really want is to be gut punched. Post virus, and even now. However I can't figure that part out just yet. Peace and good wishes to everyone.
Just for the record (and to get the discussion back to its original intent), I've found it difficult trying to set up a meeting of several like-minded guys who want to gutpunch. Logistics seems to be the main issue; trying to decide on a date conducive to everyone, especially since most people on here still have to work for a living and may not have jobs that allow them much time off or pay them enough to travel to far-flung cities. Then there's the problem of where to meet. Obviously, 30-50 men aren't going to want to gutpunch in a hotel room. We need access to a ring or at least some large facility , like a warehouse, where everyone could pay a certain amount to rent it out. The best I've been able to manage to put together wasn't even at my instigation. Rather, some guys on here who had started getting together on a yearly basis in one city invited me to join them. Even then it was at best only about 4-5 guys. Regional matches might be more practical. Any suggestions on how to do this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Eric. Travel plans are very much on hold for me right now, of course. But who knows what June might bring? Also, as I mentioned to Gene recently on here, some of my enthusiasm for getting together has been diminished somewhat due to the less-than-favorable results of elbow surgery 3 years ago to try to improve a condition in my left hand but which in reality left it in worse shape. I'm a little anxious about using that hand for punching, although it might be OK. But I sure don't want to do anything that might make it worse. So, there you are. Thanks for your message.
I agree, letās move on!
Not sure how practical to have a group matches due to logistics, but one suggestion is maybe each region area have a group or tournament style matches?
Is it racist to put "Made in China" on packaging from a product that's made in China? Who cares if it's called the Wuhan virus, the CCP virus (Communist Chinese Party), the Chinese virus, the coronavirus, or the COVID-19 virus? Honestly, I could care less. What gets really tiring are the people that overuse the word "racist" when they actually have not a clue what it means. They just parrot what they hear others parrot. The also demonstrate that they are a low information person because they misuse and abuse that word. Let's cut out the drama!
What we should care a whole lot more about is the total fraud of this shutdown. We ought to be more concerned about governors that have taken it upon themselves to act like a dictatorial king or queen. Both Ds and Rs have been guilty of this. They have decided to unilaterally suspend the US constitution. There's no politics here. Just facts.
This isn't even political and the people that think it is are blithering close-minded idiots. It's a fucking virus. A sickness. People are dying. It has nothing to do with political affiliations or human constructs like the US Constitution.
Tell it like it is Mr Muay Thai,,,,, Very shocking to see the deaths due to this. That's all that matters,the victims and their families. But, still looking forward to possible meet ups when it's safe. That was the subject of the thread in the first place. Hate to have to be aggressive, but I dont take crap from anyone. Love to meet up with a particular member here that doesn't like me anymore than I like him I'm sure. Im in Iowa,,he's close distance wise. Love to exchange gloved blows to submission with him, winner handing out an attitude adjustment to the loser.
Iowa Submission, if you are referring to me as a potential opponent, think again. I realize that, having had only one opponent, this is more a fantasy of yours than anything else. But practically speaking, thereās no way I would fight an out-of-shape 61 year-old man who tips the scales at nearly 300 pounds. It is a medical emergency waiting to happen and I want no part of it. Stick to being a keyboard warrior, itās safer for you. With that Iāll exit the thread.
LOL,,Hey ego tripper,,it isn't you, I already know you wouldn't show,,a match with me would get you a pounding that would be real,not some play time game,,and it WOULDN'T get you a participation trophy. Your a whiner,,not a fighter. And please,,get off the thread.
Not everything that indicates location is necessarily racist. After all, the virus did originate out of China. Although it helps to avoid placing negative label on its people, one could argue, in this case, it is no more than a historic truth.
Spanish flu started in the US yet itās called the Spanish flu because of how it impacted Spain. Covid-19 Is impacting the US greater now, so should we call it the US Virus? No. It should just be called Covid-19 (SARS Covid-2) and leave it at that. Thatās what it is. A coronavirus, which there are many.
I think we can all move on now and get back to wrestling discussions, which is what this website is about, not political views or opinions. Each one is entitled to his own opinion but it should not be introduced into a sports website. Thanks for taking the discussion back to the manly sport of WRESTLING.
Thank you. This post was about the possibility of setting up boxing meets after the Chinese virus threat is over,,if ever. This isn't,and never was intended for unwanted and unsolicited input form those individuals that posses blind hate for our President. (gut puncher98) Keep your political ideology to your self,,this is "Meetfighters" not some place for those just aching to beat up on someone that doesn't buy into their skewed opinions and distorted view of the world.I don't care what you think,but I have no problem with your ideology or opinions,,just don't try cramming it down my throat. Live and let live. If you don't like what you see, I cordially invite you to not read,and certainly don't care to hear your hateful reaction., or your history lessons.
Sorry, but using the term Chinese virus *is* political ideology, so spare us your righteous indignation. You can call it that if you want but donāt be surprised when you get pushback.
And I agree with you hardpunch, thatās why members should be thoughtful in the terms they use. Calling it the āChinese virusā carries more baggage than just relaying itās origin. Iāll just reference one article (link below in case anyone actually cares enough to read it) and I think thatās itās completely relevant to this discussion on the Meetfighters platform because the title is āAsian Americans describe āgut punchā of racist attacks during coronavirus pandemicā. My point is be kind to each other and enjoy āfightingā as a sport and not an ideology.
"so spare us your righteous indignation' Spare your own indignation,,nobody pulled your chain in an effort to solicit your political opinions on ideology. Real simple, you live your life with your beliefs,,and I'll live mine. Again,,the virus was released from Communist China, period! That's a factual reality, period,, and I do not care what you think or what you prefer to call it. "the term Chinese virus *is* political ideology" That's your opinion,,not a fact. Again,,I smell the current hatred many champion in an effort to discredit our US President. Another pathetic sheep following the herd. A pandemic from China has nothing to do with ideology,,or politics, it's about death and the destruction of the lifestyle and prosperity that most folks, like myself,have worked a lifetime for. And like most working Americans,including the families of the thousands of persons who have died, and will die in the near future, thanks to Communist China,,I could care less what you think,and did not post this thread to hear your distorted opinions of the facts. This is "Meetfighters" not some CNN talk show. And this is about possible match ups after the Chinese virus is eliminated, not a thread asking for unsolicited political lessons on how you feel everyone should adopt your views.
Originated yes, but racially profiling a virus is immature and disrespectful. The virus was given an actual name. Itās Covid-19, or Coronavirus. I donāt see people calling yellow fever, malaria, and small pox the African virus...
I'm finding myself strongly regretting not putting more effort into meeting several rivals I was in discussion with prior to the Chinese Virus. I guess none of us have a crystal ball, and hindsight is always 20/20. I began thinking of a possible "Regional" lists of fighters wanting to consider a commitment to a group gathering to pair off with arranged belly / body boxing fights when things safely open up again. Kinda like a trip to Disneyland as a well deserved vacation after all this isolation. Possibly in a variety of cities across the country,,say,,Chicago,Atlanta,Dallas,etc. Maybe even rent a private ring , attendees watch the fights while waiting for their match ups. Others welcome to meet privately at motels to duke it out. Any ideas on this?
Your very welcome to call it what you like, but dont lecture me on political crap you believe in,,this is NOT a site for your skewed political beliefs or comments. Spanish flu of 1917 came from??? The war of 1812 was fought,,when?? Let's see,,Virus started in China,,,YUP,,Chinese virus. Racist,,no,,reality. If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck,and quacks like a duck,,,it's a duck!! Keep your political comments to yourself please.
The so called "Spanish flu" originated in Kansas and was called "Spanish" because Spain wouldn't get involved in the world war....
Racism, period.
Maybe pick up a history book not writing by the Texas board of "education"
Spanish flu started in the US yet itās called the Spanish flu because of how it impacted Spain. Covid-19 Is impacting the US greater now, so should we call it the US Virus? No. It should just be called Covid-19 (SARS Covid-2) and leave it at that. Thatās what it is. A coronavirus, which there are many.
FYI: The WHO has since changed the name officially to the 1918 Pandemic when it realized later on that connecting a disease to a particular race of people or country tends to stigmatize people of that race. In other words, calling it the Spanish flu makes people think that all Spaniards have it or that only Spaniards can get it, neither of which is true.That's why it's important to refer to this disease by its official name, the Corona virus, or COVID-19.
LOL,,, Do you work for CNN?? Give it a break for God's sake. Build a bridge and get over it. The question is,and has been,,do you want to entertain a possible meet up after the China virus lockdown is over? Yes or no? Start your own snowflake ideas discussion if that's what you want to rant about.
It amuses me how the very people who use the term snowflake are the same ones who have a meltdown if anyone challenges them, as you did in your earlier tearjerker post about the commies ruining the life youāve worked so hard for.
It appears Mark Twain was right all along,,and your a classic example of who he refereed to when he said,,,,āNever argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.ā
There was absolutely nothing political about my comment at all. I suggest you look up the definition for politics.
Also, Spanish is a language, not an ethnicity. The Spanish Flu is called the Spanish Flu. That was the name it was given world wide. The Conoronavirus is called the Coronavirus, or Covid-19, not the Chinese Virus. People just started calling it that to follow suit with Trumpās thoughtless provocative choice of words to describe the virus.
Rt ND Guts (4)
07.5.2020 16:04Was a Midwest meet given any thought? Who'd show if it were held in a central location like St Louis or Indianapolis?
hardabs1 (23)
07.5.2020 17:27(In antwoord hierop)
I would do my best to attend, as long as a few others commit.
bellyboi (0)
29.4.2020 7:25All this political discussion. But what I really want is to be gut punched. Post virus, and even now. However I can't figure that part out just yet. Peace and good wishes to everyone.
hardpunch (18)
29.4.2020 6:05Just for the record (and to get the discussion back to its original intent), I've found it difficult trying to set up a meeting of several like-minded guys who want to gutpunch. Logistics seems to be the main issue; trying to decide on a date conducive to everyone, especially since most people on here still have to work for a living and may not have jobs that allow them much time off or pay them enough to travel to far-flung cities. Then there's the problem of where to meet. Obviously, 30-50 men aren't going to want to gutpunch in a hotel room. We need access to a ring or at least some large facility , like a warehouse, where everyone could pay a certain amount to rent it out. The best I've been able to manage to put together wasn't even at my instigation. Rather, some guys on here who had started getting together on a yearly basis in one city invited me to join them. Even then it was at best only about 4-5 guys. Regional matches might be more practical. Any suggestions on how to do this would be greatly appreciated.
FistsInGut (10)
06.5.2020 6:48(In antwoord hierop)
Host here first int. convention fort laud.
hardabs1 (23)
29.4.2020 6:58(In antwoord hierop)
And we still meet in June. If you ever want to try it again, you're more than welcome to join us :)
hardpunch (18)
29.4.2020 22:24(In antwoord hierop)
Thanks, Eric. Travel plans are very much on hold for me right now, of course. But who knows what June might bring? Also, as I mentioned to Gene recently on here, some of my enthusiasm for getting together has been diminished somewhat due to the less-than-favorable results of elbow surgery 3 years ago to try to improve a condition in my left hand but which in reality left it in worse shape. I'm a little anxious about using that hand for punching, although it might be OK. But I sure don't want to do anything that might make it worse. So, there you are. Thanks for your message.
FistsInGut (10)
06.5.2020 6:49(In antwoord hierop)
Light is better than the dark days of none š§
hardpunch (18)
09.5.2020 6:05(In antwoord hierop)
Yeah, you're probably right.
Matt 7136 (14)
28.4.2020 16:26Letās move on guys!
Combatsportsfun (4)
28.4.2020 23:52(In antwoord hierop)
I agree, letās move on!
Not sure how practical to have a group matches due to logistics, but one suggestion is maybe each region area have a group or tournament style matches?
Aside: Anyone in DC area want a match?
NorthwestGPer (2)
27.4.2020 8:17Is it racist to put "Made in China" on packaging from a product that's made in China? Who cares if it's called the Wuhan virus, the CCP virus (Communist Chinese Party), the Chinese virus, the coronavirus, or the COVID-19 virus? Honestly, I could care less. What gets really tiring are the people that overuse the word "racist" when they actually have not a clue what it means. They just parrot what they hear others parrot. The also demonstrate that they are a low information person because they misuse and abuse that word. Let's cut out the drama!
What we should care a whole lot more about is the total fraud of this shutdown. We ought to be more concerned about governors that have taken it upon themselves to act like a dictatorial king or queen. Both Ds and Rs have been guilty of this. They have decided to unilaterally suspend the US constitution. There's no politics here. Just facts.
MuayThaiPuppo (4 )
05.5.2020 6:28(In antwoord hierop)
This isn't even political and the people that think it is are blithering close-minded idiots. It's a fucking virus. A sickness. People are dying. It has nothing to do with political affiliations or human constructs like the US Constitution.
chicagowrestbox (25 )
27.4.2020 14:39(In antwoord hierop)
Get back to us on this after you actually read the constitution.
MuayThaiPuppo (4 )
05.5.2020 6:29(In antwoord hierop)
Thank you!
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
06.5.2020 5:15(In antwoord hierop)
Tell it like it is Mr Muay Thai,,,,, Very shocking to see the deaths due to this. That's all that matters,the victims and their families. But, still looking forward to possible meet ups when it's safe. That was the subject of the thread in the first place. Hate to have to be aggressive, but I dont take crap from anyone. Love to meet up with a particular member here that doesn't like me anymore than I like him I'm sure. Im in Iowa,,he's close distance wise. Love to exchange gloved blows to submission with him, winner handing out an attitude adjustment to the loser.
chicagowrestbox (25 )
06.5.2020 19:23(In antwoord hierop)
Iowa Submission, if you are referring to me as a potential opponent, think again. I realize that, having had only one opponent, this is more a fantasy of yours than anything else. But practically speaking, thereās no way I would fight an out-of-shape 61 year-old man who tips the scales at nearly 300 pounds. It is a medical emergency waiting to happen and I want no part of it. Stick to being a keyboard warrior, itās safer for you. With that Iāll exit the thread.
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
07.5.2020 14:05(In antwoord hierop)
LOL,,Hey ego tripper,,it isn't you, I already know you wouldn't show,,a match with me would get you a pounding that would be real,not some play time game,,and it WOULDN'T get you a participation trophy. Your a whiner,,not a fighter. And please,,get off the thread.
Cutetxguy75 (9 )
28.4.2020 6:06(In antwoord hierop)
Agreed, Chicagowrestbox! Thanks for responding and speaking out his against ignorance and short sightedness.
hardpunch (18)
28.4.2020 5:39(In antwoord hierop)
Thank you!
Juggernaut (0)
26.4.2020 7:53Not everything that indicates location is necessarily racist. After all, the virus did originate out of China. Although it helps to avoid placing negative label on its people, one could argue, in this case, it is no more than a historic truth.
Magneto (13)
28.4.2020 18:27(In antwoord hierop)
Spanish flu started in the US yet itās called the Spanish flu because of how it impacted Spain. Covid-19 Is impacting the US greater now, so should we call it the US Virus? No. It should just be called Covid-19 (SARS Covid-2) and leave it at that. Thatās what it is. A coronavirus, which there are many.
Roughmatch (127 )
26.4.2020 17:20(In antwoord hierop)
I think we can all move on now and get back to wrestling discussions, which is what this website is about, not political views or opinions. Each one is entitled to his own opinion but it should not be introduced into a sports website. Thanks for taking the discussion back to the manly sport of WRESTLING.
hardpunch (18)
28.4.2020 5:39(In antwoord hierop)
My sentiments exactly.
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
26.4.2020 18:57(In antwoord hierop)
Thank you. This post was about the possibility of setting up boxing meets after the Chinese virus threat is over,,if ever. This isn't,and never was intended for unwanted and unsolicited input form those individuals that posses blind hate for our President. (gut puncher98) Keep your political ideology to your self,,this is "Meetfighters" not some place for those just aching to beat up on someone that doesn't buy into their skewed opinions and distorted view of the world.I don't care what you think,but I have no problem with your ideology or opinions,,just don't try cramming it down my throat. Live and let live. If you don't like what you see, I cordially invite you to not read,and certainly don't care to hear your hateful reaction., or your history lessons.
Magneto (13)
28.4.2020 18:30(In antwoord hierop)
Youāre bashing someone and exhibiting those very same things in your own words. šāāļøš¤¦āāļø
chicagowrestbox (25 )
26.4.2020 20:13(In antwoord hierop)
Sorry, but using the term Chinese virus *is* political ideology, so spare us your righteous indignation. You can call it that if you want but donāt be surprised when you get pushback.
hardpunch (18)
28.4.2020 5:43(In antwoord hierop)
I agree. This should be a site where you can get away from the politics, regardless of your ideology.
Cutetxguy75 (9 )
28.4.2020 6:24(In antwoord hierop)
And I agree with you hardpunch, thatās why members should be thoughtful in the terms they use. Calling it the āChinese virusā carries more baggage than just relaying itās origin. Iāll just reference one article (link below in case anyone actually cares enough to read it) and I think thatās itās completely relevant to this discussion on the Meetfighters platform because the title is āAsian Americans describe āgut punchā of racist attacks during coronavirus pandemicā. My point is be kind to each other and enjoy āfightingā as a sport and not an ideology.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/asian-americans-describe-gut-punch-of-racist-attacks-during-coronavirus-pandemic
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
27.4.2020 3:59(In antwoord hierop)
"so spare us your righteous indignation' Spare your own indignation,,nobody pulled your chain in an effort to solicit your political opinions on ideology. Real simple, you live your life with your beliefs,,and I'll live mine. Again,,the virus was released from Communist China, period! That's a factual reality, period,, and I do not care what you think or what you prefer to call it. "the term Chinese virus *is* political ideology" That's your opinion,,not a fact. Again,,I smell the current hatred many champion in an effort to discredit our US President. Another pathetic sheep following the herd. A pandemic from China has nothing to do with ideology,,or politics, it's about death and the destruction of the lifestyle and prosperity that most folks, like myself,have worked a lifetime for. And like most working Americans,including the families of the thousands of persons who have died, and will die in the near future, thanks to Communist China,,I could care less what you think,and did not post this thread to hear your distorted opinions of the facts. This is "Meetfighters" not some CNN talk show. And this is about possible match ups after the Chinese virus is eliminated, not a thread asking for unsolicited political lessons on how you feel everyone should adopt your views.
Roughmatch (127 )
27.4.2020 4:18(In antwoord hierop)
I see no further need to remain in this group.
chicagowrestbox (25 )
27.4.2020 4:13(In antwoord hierop)
Well at least youāre saying it outright now instead of hiding it in coded language.
Roughmatch (127 )
26.4.2020 23:49(In antwoord hierop)
Fully agree
GutPuncher89 (1 )
26.4.2020 12:27(In antwoord hierop)
Originated yes, but racially profiling a virus is immature and disrespectful. The virus was given an actual name. Itās Covid-19, or Coronavirus. I donāt see people calling yellow fever, malaria, and small pox the African virus...
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
25.4.2020 18:15I'm finding myself strongly regretting not putting more effort into meeting several rivals I was in discussion with prior to the Chinese Virus. I guess none of us have a crystal ball, and hindsight is always 20/20. I began thinking of a possible "Regional" lists of fighters wanting to consider a commitment to a group gathering to pair off with arranged belly / body boxing fights when things safely open up again. Kinda like a trip to Disneyland as a well deserved vacation after all this isolation. Possibly in a variety of cities across the country,,say,,Chicago,Atlanta,Dallas,etc. Maybe even rent a private ring , attendees watch the fights while waiting for their match ups. Others welcome to meet privately at motels to duke it out. Any ideas on this?
GutPuncher89 (1 )
26.4.2020 12:28(In antwoord hierop)
Really? You couldnāt just say coronavirus, or covid19?
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
26.4.2020 13:09(In antwoord hierop)
Your very welcome to call it what you like, but dont lecture me on political crap you believe in,,this is NOT a site for your skewed political beliefs or comments. Spanish flu of 1917 came from??? The war of 1812 was fought,,when?? Let's see,,Virus started in China,,,YUP,,Chinese virus. Racist,,no,,reality. If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck,and quacks like a duck,,,it's a duck!! Keep your political comments to yourself please.
Kureitondesu (14 )
16.5.2020 7:48(In antwoord hierop)
The so called "Spanish flu" originated in Kansas and was called "Spanish" because Spain wouldn't get involved in the world war....
Racism, period.
Maybe pick up a history book not writing by the Texas board of "education"
hardabs1 (23)
16.5.2020 8:28(In antwoord hierop)
The World Health Organization has renamed the Spanish Flu the 1918 Flu.
Magneto (13)
28.4.2020 18:32(In antwoord hierop)
Spanish flu started in the US yet itās called the Spanish flu because of how it impacted Spain. Covid-19 Is impacting the US greater now, so should we call it the US Virus? No. It should just be called Covid-19 (SARS Covid-2) and leave it at that. Thatās what it is. A coronavirus, which there are many.
hardpunch (18)
01.5.2020 23:57(In antwoord hierop)
FYI: The WHO has since changed the name officially to the 1918 Pandemic when it realized later on that connecting a disease to a particular race of people or country tends to stigmatize people of that race. In other words, calling it the Spanish flu makes people think that all Spaniards have it or that only Spaniards can get it, neither of which is true.That's why it's important to refer to this disease by its official name, the Corona virus, or COVID-19.
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
02.5.2020 15:06(In antwoord hierop)
LOL,,, Do you work for CNN?? Give it a break for God's sake. Build a bridge and get over it. The question is,and has been,,do you want to entertain a possible meet up after the China virus lockdown is over? Yes or no? Start your own snowflake ideas discussion if that's what you want to rant about.
chicagowrestbox (25 )
02.5.2020 15:56(In antwoord hierop)
It amuses me how the very people who use the term snowflake are the same ones who have a meltdown if anyone challenges them, as you did in your earlier tearjerker post about the commies ruining the life youāve worked so hard for.
IOWA SUBMISSION (1)
02.5.2020 16:47(In antwoord hierop)
It appears Mark Twain was right all along,,and your a classic example of who he refereed to when he said,,,,āNever argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.ā
GutPuncher89 (1 )
26.4.2020 16:53(In antwoord hierop)
There was absolutely nothing political about my comment at all. I suggest you look up the definition for politics.
Also, Spanish is a language, not an ethnicity. The Spanish Flu is called the Spanish Flu. That was the name it was given world wide. The Conoronavirus is called the Coronavirus, or Covid-19, not the Chinese Virus. People just started calling it that to follow suit with Trumpās thoughtless provocative choice of words to describe the virus.
Roughmatch (127 )
26.4.2020 13:26(In antwoord hierop)
So I still don't get the connection as this is a wrestling site not a political platform.
hardabs1 (23)
26.4.2020 7:01(In antwoord hierop)
Chinese virus? I stopped reading after that racist remark.
Roughmatch (127 )
26.4.2020 7:05(In antwoord hierop)
Racist comments have no place here and I agree with Hardabs
hardpunch (18)
28.4.2020 5:53(In antwoord hierop)
I agree with both of you. Leave the politics out, otherwise it will ruin the site for everybody.